How strange,  I put down the Guardian newspaper having read a small piece about someone called Lisi proposing a much simplified theory of dimensions and matter.  I go on line then see this post!

Looking at his paper, I like the coloured triangles the best!

Anyone want to expound further on this.  Is it a goer?

http://arxiv.org/pdf/0711.0770

Lee Smolin seems taken...what do the panel think...has it got legs...or to put it another way... does it boogie in a four dimensional base manifold?

Be kindda cute if it really explained life the universe and everything...but then again can anything be that simple...then again... well why not?

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This is way, way beyond strangeness.  

This movie (paste url into QuickTime or plug-in) shows it beautifully, i think::
http://www.deferentialgeometry.org/anim/e8rotation.mov

A part of the definition of  , or should be.

Added:: The "E8 Theory Summary" on page 44 of this pdf seems correct, so far:: http://www.deferentialgeometry.org/talks/ILQGS07/Lisi.pdf

ultra-  

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Future generations - if we produce any,   - will take E8 on board easier than the current set of memes and genes can express because it is, from now onwards, a demonstrable result.

What a get-out clause, eh?  

P.S. It is definitely beautiful too. 

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Anyhoo, historical note:

http://www.valdostamuseum.org/hamsmith/coquad.html

Is some related work from 1978 showing that the 'smash product', /\, of an S4 with another yields an S8 and Spin(8) or e8 is the 'maximal group' to describe it. The 248 roots of e8 are projected into a 3-d + time S3 as shown at the youtubes. Each of the roots maps to a 'particle' of the standard model + Higgs and includes supersymmetric reflections - some of which aren't 'nailed-down' yet, but should be soonest - and the connections betwixt. Like a buckyball but bouncier.  

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20th century un-reason does not contain the energy for anything to spin.

Everything spins and the universe expands at an accelerating rate.

The Lie algebra Clifford-bundle with minimal action, E8, or Spin(8) contains an 8 dimensional hypersphere upon which, 248 particles** are arranged and are connected to a ‘central’ observer in the simplest way possible. Two of the roots are connected by something alien or quartic. It is a hypothesis of the theory that Triality*** will help resolve quartic elements successfully. Hooraah! The next 8 connect to generate all phenomena observed hitherto. Including some mathematical ‘ghosts’ of earlier reason.

It’s a bit like flying a kite fom the deck of Helen McCarthy’s trimaran in a hoolery-blow that has one more string or button than you can comfortably manage. It's time has come so let it go.  

Lisi,"It's either spectacularly right or spectacularly wrong."

Are they on seasonal sale yet anywhere? California would be my first guess...

Golden compasses are built after hypernovae. The stories'll end hereabouts alright but they get reflected at c over very much greater plains than Tuvan's imagine****, i guess.  

* e.g. the youtube@ :: http://motls.blogspot.com/2007/10/david-gross-coming-revolutions-in.html

** A few of the more exotic beasties are yet to be described fully: as the theory unfolds, these will become clearer in their ‘language’ definition.

*** Tommy Cooper riding a bike with 3 spokes, the cavalry, calvary or whatever on-tow.  

**** Tuvan throats:: http://www.huunhuurtu.com/
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVyyhHFKI8E

Somebody got a spirograph for their birthday then.

Very pretty. Completely meaningless.

It seems like designers are crying out for this kind of stuff...

http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/197

Even if it is only toilet brushes. 

newolder wrote on Dec 5^th, 2007 at 3:35pm:


At the point I see a complex diagram with absolutely no annotation and no legend. It may as well have been drawn by my niece with her spirograph for all the meaning it contains.

Andy The Boss wrote on Dec 5^th, 2007 at 2:59pm:


There's an "interesting" take on it here by Lubos Motl.

newolder wrote on Dec 5^th, 2007 at 4:37pm:


I'm afraid it is. That diagram is not annotated, not explained and not described. I'm sure there is lots of useful information in it, but I should have thought that if its creators wanted people to gasp and say "Wow, like, far out" there should be at least some explanation of what the hell it is. The whole point of creating diagrams is to communicate information, and all that diagram tells me is that you've been a nice chap and provided the forums with its first Christmas decoration. Thanks for that!